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Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:35 pm | |
| I want to know what you all think. Which series is better? Harry Potter Twilight Vampire Academy or House of Night And can you tell me why? Any comments must be backed up with proof not a 'just because' or 'I just don't like it' |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 3239 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:39 am | |
| Harry Potter and Vampire Academy win for me. Harry Potter because I gre up with it and it was just so exciting. There was always something special about the secret magical community and I loved that Jk Rowling wasn't afraid to do something (like allow so many important people to die), she continued the plot even though it killed her sometimes. Harry potter's one of the only book series that I actually read Fanfiction for, because the storyline/world is so amazing...I find that there are so many plots that are undiscovered, so fanfiction doesn't really seem like someone else's story about the characters, but more like an attempt to fill in the gaps. Sorry, major tangent...but it's proof of my Harry Potter love With VA it's sort of the same, in the way that RM doesn't hold back with her story, and I love that Rose isn't 100% imformed about her own world. There's so much being discovered by Rose and we're giving the opportunity to view it all with her. Even though the sort of problems she comes across aren't exactly normal human things (like vampires and prison breaks etc.) you still feel connected. I always feel better about a story when you can put yourself in it with absolutely no trouble at all. As for Twilight and House of Night. I do like Twilight, it was a simple story and I loved reading it. But I don't think it's better than the HP or VA. Twilight isn't well writting and I don't much like that Bella & Edward become a path for Stephenie Meyer's oppinions to seep through. Like Marriage before sex/Children most important human experience etc. I get that for some people those ideas are EXTREMELY important, and I'm not trying to judge anyone who believes in those things. I just think it's wrong that for the first few books there were no problems, but come the chance to have sex or the idea of not having children and suddenly all beliefs change. I also didn't like that Bella's vampire life becomes so easy for her. She didn't really want kids, or at least she was willing to give them up to be with Edward, and then suddenly vampires could have children so she got both. ANd Jacob was all cut up about being left lonely, but no! wait! he's in love with Renesme. And EVERYONE's going to die...but whoops, false alarm. All because SM didn't want any favourite characters to die. I do like Twilight, I have books, posters, badges, calendars etc. I'm a big fan (or at least I was before the movies) but it just can't beat VA and HP House of Night I really hate. I can't stand Zoe. I thought Bella got everything she wanted, but Zoe just pisses me off...in fact, quite a few of the characters do. I admit, I haven't finished the series. One day I will, but I just can't bring myself to be concerned with the new releases. I think the book had a lot of potenial, there was definitely room for a fantastic story, but it's just so predictible and annoying that I can't stand it. Zoe's constant stream of guys (all of which she's madly in love with) seems ridiculous to me. And I don't find it written very well. |
|  | | Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:58 am | |
| Very well put love. And you gave actual reasons and proof. And I agree with everything you said. Except for one... Twilight.. I was madly in love... But now that I've read VA... It's poorly written and entirely too much hype.... That's all I ever heard about.... I've realized that all Bella ever saw was Edward... She pretty much let him control her life.... And... I'm not a big fan of that. As for HON(House of Night) Zoe is entirely too predictable.... I'll finish the series but only because it will annoy me if I don't..... Any other opinions? |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 3239 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:13 am | |
| Yeah, I feel the same way. Eventually I'll finish the House of Night novels, just because if I don't I'll forever be wondering what happened (though if it turns out I never finish them I won't be too disappointed).
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|  | | dimkaluv

Posts: 2334 Join date: 2009-01-23 Age: 25 Location: in Eddie's pants
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:44 am | |
| VA and HP for me. I couldn't even begin to read HON. I attempted to read the first chapter of book 1, couldn't help gagging over how shallow and trashy the characters were, and just quit there.
Don't even get me started on Twilight. |
|  | | Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:39 pm | |
| I'd like to hear what you think dimkaluv. |
|  | | Peace love n VA

Posts: 2222 Join date: 2009-09-29 Age: 23 Location: New York
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| Harry Potter and Va for me. I love HP because of everything Kim described. Just the writing , the story telling - the world created. As you read the series the writing and storying telling evolve and you get to see growth and development of the characters and the world. I love it. Same with VA.
Twilight- even when i was read it and was a big fan of the book- i always said its the best and worst book i ever read. Best because of the vampire/human allure forbidden romance. I'm hopeless romantic and that love story never gets old for me. But SM is a sucky writer. Liteature wise. And she can't sepearte her beleifs and her writing and she never takes chances. It shows in her writing AND in the stories.
HON- like Kim said, the world and story created has SOOOO much potential. But it's like P.C. and Kristen Cast are writing DOWN to teens and the superficial stuff over clouds the story. And it's too predictable. Zoey has bf problems, zoey saves the worlds, zoey gets a new tattoo. I actually still follow and read the series because now the sub characters and sub plots are playing a bigger role. In the last book( not giving anything away) Zoey was barely in it .. .which made me SUPER happy and for a super good read. |
|  | | Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:34 pm | |
| Hmm. Tasha you make a good point on the HON series.. I completely agree with you on Twilight..... I am a hopeless romantice as well.. I guess that's the reason I feel in love with it.... |
|  | | SecretMagic

Posts: 3239 Join date: 2009-06-12 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:08 am | |
| | Peace love n VA wrote: | | HON- like Kim said, the world and story created has SOOOO much potential. But it's like P.C. and Kristen Cast are writing DOWN to teens and the superficial stuff over clouds the story. And it's too predictable. Zoey has bf problems, zoey saves the worlds, zoey gets a new tattoo. I actually still follow and read the series because now the sub characters and sub plots are playing a bigger role. In the last book( not giving anything away) Zoey was barely in it .. .which made me SUPER happy and for a super good read. | lol, something to look forward to then. You reminded me that every time Zoey got a new tattoo I'd get angry...I really didn't think she deserved them |
|  | | Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:58 am | |
| She never really did much... |
|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 2998 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 20 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:05 am | |
| *Sigh* Am i supposed to find it natural that somebody forgets about the Percy Jackson and The Olympians series, by Old-man Rick Riordan[where the Councils in question are actually useful, the reasoning for illegitimate children are justified, the ancestors to Harry's own spiritual ancestor King Arthur are in there and are somewhat reliable(Zeus and Aphrodite!), and everyone's not only some sort of badassed soldier or warrior by citizenship, but is also sympathetic?] or the Hunger Games trilogy, by Suzanne Collins[in which we must get with the times, everyone can fend for themselves, the government's trying to destroy the Districts by the arena's Hunger Games, and tasteful Romance?Plus a homage to the siege of the Labyrinth by Lord Theseus, a demigod son of Poseidon?Can we ask for more?]
Whoever forgot to add either of the two series[preferably both] in there while HoN is up, should get a pie upon them! *Looks for one truly good reason not to go pie someone with their favorite flavor!* |
|  | | Dark Angel

Posts: 1809 Join date: 2009-12-24 Age: 16 Location: Some where in the world.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:09 am | |
| Sorry Tony. Never read the series so I didn't want any spoilers. I do plan on reading them though. |
|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 2998 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 20 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:16 am | |
| Thank you. *Prevented the pie from being thrown at Dark Angel* |
|  | | dimkaluv

Posts: 2334 Join date: 2009-01-23 Age: 25 Location: in Eddie's pants
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:29 am | |
| | Tonystark616 wrote: | Thank you. *Prevented the pie from being thrown at Dark Angel* |
lol What's with the aggro, Tony? Pie throwing is quite unnecessary.
Though I do agree with the Hunger Games thing. For being a bestselling series, it's left out a lot. |
|  | | Tonystark616

Posts: 2998 Join date: 2009-05-09 Age: 20 Location: At the Cosmic Era or at the Anno Domini Era, trying to ask Kira Yamato or Athrun Zala, or for that matter, Celestial Being to come in to kill the Volturi.
 | Subject: Re: Debate: Harry Potter Series, Twilight, Vampire Academy, or House of Night. Which is better? Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:45 am | |
| | dimkaluv wrote: | | Tonystark616 wrote: | Thank you. *Prevented the pie from being thrown at Dark Angel* |
lol What's with the aggro, Tony? Pie throwing is quite unnecessary.
Though I do agree with the Hunger Games thing. For being a bestselling series, it's left out a lot. |
I guess i was feeling like i had excess leftover Aggro without a reasonable way to deal with it. One time when it happened, i became a net basher and once beaten off a Net Troll with a virtually giant dictionary full of European Folklore[i had some help in fighting said net troll, though!] Another time when it happened, i was showing excess rage my role-play band tend to have[especially Lancelot Siegfried, as he went axe-crazy!] in a big fight. I'd rather not add more colorful details to the messy rage, but will instead leave a happy note that i'd like to see lady Persephone covered in ribbons! ^_^'
I know, and that series isn't the only one getting maddeningly left out of good lists, but its even more obvious than the case of the Camp Half-Blood novels, as if they're targeting more than just Round Table-esque fandom worlds to leave out. I'd like to have both of them on there, by now, along with The Demonata series, by Darren Shan! *Goes to dump head in bucket of cold water as soon as i placed Ear plugs on!*
Please hit me with cold water or help me cool down, i don't think i can pull it together like this without weaponizing the excess aggro! |
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