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dbelikova



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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:32 am

I know it's such a shame they took it out on the "wrong" Christian "group".
I've always thought the Roman Catholic Church has a lot of skeletons lurking in its closet, being responsible for so many wrong-doings throughout history. I don't know that much about the Eastern branches of Christianity, but I've always thought them more appealing.
I think it's great we have a hero in this series who is a professed Orthodox and that the Orthdox religion and beliefs are portrayed in such a positive way Smile .
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:15 pm

First of all, I want to say that I'm pretty surprised to see that you know so many things about Troy etc... Rolling Eyes

Second the name Vasilissa IS Russian. It's just that, in greek it's not a name. It just means "Queen".

I think I read somewhere that the stress is on the last i, like VasilIssa. In greek it is "VasIlissa". It's kinda weird, since in the translated copy they translate her name and make it seem like her name is actually "Queen" Rolling Eyes

Regarding the history topic thet you brought up, I think the connction is from the byzantine era, when Russians and greeks had relationship, since the word vasilisa is Greek. "King" is translated as "Vasilias".

Serioysly, noone here is from Russia??? Shocked Rolling Eyes Razz
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:45 pm

No, the closest I ever get to Russia is my father is from the north of Finland, having grown up in the shadow of the very big neighbour in the east and also my grandfather having fought against the Soviet Union in WW2.

It's a fascinating country with a very interesting history. So different from most of the Western European countries, since it never had the chance to be part of the development towards a modern democracy in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

I can imagine that the Greek and Russian cultures borrowed heavily from one another during the reign of the Byzantine Empire. And then of course my own country and Russia have always been sworn enemies, competing and fighting throughout history over the control of The Baltic Sea.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:29 pm

dbelikova wrote:
I know it's such a shame they took it out on the "wrong" Christian "group".
I've always thought the Roman Catholic Church has a lot of skeletons lurking in its closet, being responsible for so many wrong-doings throughout history. I don't know that much about the Eastern branches of Christianity, but I've always thought them more appealing.
I think it's great we have a hero in this series who is a professed Orthodox and that the Orthdox religion and beliefs are portrayed in such a positive way Smile .


Do you mean Lissa, who was not holier-than-thou in any way, shape or form?
Now if i can only say likewise about the general Moroi Royal Council in General(Who weren't religiously holier-than-thou, except for the racist imbecile among the council who want to wipe out Rose' species, but were racially and xenocially holier-than-thou, instead. >_>' )

I thought Rose' father was meant to be a muslim, actually.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:03 pm

Tonystark616 wrote:
dbelikova wrote:
I know it's such a shame they took it out on the "wrong" Christian "group".
I've always thought the Roman Catholic Church has a lot of skeletons lurking in its closet, being responsible for so many wrong-doings throughout history. I don't know that much about the Eastern branches of Christianity, but I've always thought them more appealing.
I think it's great we have a hero in this series who is a professed Orthodox and that the Orthdox religion and beliefs are portrayed in such a positive way Smile .


Do you mean Lissa, who was not holier-than-thou in any way, shape or form?
Now if i can only say likewise about the general Moroi Royal Council in General(Who weren't religiously holier-than-thou, except for the racist imbecile among the council who want to wipe out Rose' species, but were racially and xenocially holier-than-thou, instead. >_>' )

I thought Rose' father was meant to be a muslim, actually.


No, I was actually thinking of Dimitri.
And his family.

And yes, Rosa's father is Muslim. Any thoughts on that?
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:43 am

This thread is enlightening. Interesting I haven't come into it before.

I don't think Rose's father being muslim is significant.
Technically speaking Rose would be muslim too.
Does Richelle specify in the book about Abe? Turkish decent doesn't 100% mean that Abe is.

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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:23 am

L.Dragomir wrote:
This thread is enlightening. Interesting I haven't come into it before.

I don't think Rose's father being muslim is significant.
Technically speaking Rose would be muslim too.
Does Richelle specify in the book about Abe? Turkish decent doesn't 100% mean that Abe is.



I'm pretty sure Rose only ever says that her father is *probably* Muslim because she didn't know anything about him and assumed that because he's Turkish that he's Muslim. I don't think it ever comes out and actually says that he is.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:55 pm

I haven't got my books at the moment (lent them to a friend) but I got the distinct impression Abe is Muslim. I can't remember how it was put, but I might be wrong.

I don't think it signifies either. Only I'm glad he seems a quite OK character and I think it's a relief to have someone being Muslim and NOT automatically being the bad guy.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:42 am

dbelikova wrote:
I haven't got my books at the moment (lent them to a friend) but I got the distinct impression Abe is Muslim. I can't remember how it was put, but I might be wrong.

I don't think it signifies either. Only I'm glad he seems a quite OK character and I think it's a relief to have someone being Muslim and NOT automatically being the bad guy.


I think so too.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:31 pm

not to seem well insulted or anything but my family is Roman Catholic
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:43 pm

I was raised Roman Catholic too. Went to Catholic school until 8th grade. I don't really follow the religion anymore. I'm a spiritual person and try to live a good life and be a good humble person and i pray and stuff, but the whole religion aspect just wasn't for me.

As for the books, if Abe is or isn't Muslim i don't think there is any significance in it. Since he wasn't part of Rose's childhood, Rose would have been raised under her mother's preference of religion. But being a guardian I think religion took a back burner. But, as we knew Rose didn't really believe in religion, only went for Lissa who was a devoted Christian which appears to be the dominate religion in VA.

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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:37 pm

RhiannonDragomir wrote:
not to seem well insulted or anything but my family is Roman Catholic


Don't be! Don't take on responsibility for what the Catholic Church has done throughout history!!! It's the church as an institution, as a institution of great political as well as religious power that has done a lot of things not to be proud of.
When it comes to faith and believing, there has always been the common man (and woman) who has done so much good for humanity.
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:59 pm

don't worry the only reason i go to church is cause my grandma wants me to go with her and i I love you my grandma a lot same with my grandpa who comes with us and the other reason is because another form of the goddess Nyx is Mary and i pray to her when i go to church
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:15 pm

SPOILER!:Lissa is the Queen in Last Sacrifice!
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PostSubject: Re: A question about Lissa's name...   Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:09 pm

So when do we find things that will actually get better when it came to the root of Lissa's name?
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